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Iíve got 500 miles on my Bullitt and Iím thinking ahead to 1000 miles. What are your thoughts on having the oil change at 1000 Miles?
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It won't hurt, but quite a few people are waiting until about 5000 miles. It's your choice. I personally would change it about 1000-1500 miles and switch to a full synthetic. I like Mobil 1 but all the majors are fine. I would follow the severe service intervals outlined in your owners manual, which includes lube service every 5000 miles. That's my personal opinion as a technician of nearly 50 years, but hey, I'm old school. Looking forward to seeing Alonso's and Maran's oil test results after first change.
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Great input, thank you sir. Iím a fan of synthetic blend, best of both worlds. My Mercs had it, then the Mercs went to full synthetic.
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Pat is old school but we love listening to his inputs By the way, I might be doing the change at 5000 miles instead of 7500 based on the time it is taking me to get to that interval since the car was put in service back on Sep 7, 2018. And yes, I absolutely will be doing the oil analysis for every change on this engine.


To the OP, I had a '15 Mustang GT and used 7500 mile intervals for the changes, including the first one. If I believe the oil life monitor, it was telling me I still had about 20% or so of life left, meaning I could have gone almost to 10,000 miles. That engine was the Gen 2 Coyote 5.0L that used 8 qts of oil, which the Gen 3 version in the '18+ Mustang GTs and the modified one in the '19 Bullitt has 10 qts. I want to be darn sure I've got some data on the trade-off between more frequent oil changes and their impact on wear. I used my car as a daily driver with a 55/45 mix of city/highway driving, and no racing or severe duty conditions. I used the standard Motorcraft 5W-20 semi-synthetic and filter. After about 53,000 miles before I traded it in, the analysis showed that the metal concentrations were within normal specifications as measured by Blackstone Labs.



Oil is one of those subjects that elicits a lot of discussion and experiences to be shared. My opinion is that dumping those initial 10 qts after 1000 miles is too early. One of our members here went to 8000 miles on his car on the first change. I believe all of us are trying to do the best we can to minimize wear and tear on the engines of these wonderful cars, especially if we want to keep them "forever"!


Pat, you also had some thoughts on the impact of the PIDI fuel delivery system with regards to the Gen 3 5.0L and the maintenance. Feel free to share those here as well regarding oil changes.
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Pat is dead on with what I would do!
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I would be concerned that the rings may not be fully seated yet. And I've heard that switching to full synthetic might slow down the process.

Just my 2 cents...
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Thanks Steve, and Tony
Part of the issue with Di injection is that fuel can mix with the oil on the cylinder walls or even flash burn it off the walls. This can dilute the oil and cause carbon to form on the intake valves, and sometimes on a Di only engine, the oil will ignite causing detonation. Also known as low speed pre-ignition.
That said, if the car is run hot enough, say over 20 minutes, most diluted fuel in the oil will be vapourized and end up in the PCV for re-burn.
The added benefit of the port injection is that fuel entering via the ports has to pass by the intake valve and will wash them off to some extent. So if you are doing mostly short trips, I would recommend more frequent oil changes.
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I would be concerned that the rings may not be fully seated yet. And I've heard that switching to full synthetic might slow down the process.

Just my 2 cents...
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Not so much an issue these days. Piston rings do a lot of their sealing in the early running hours. Even at idle speed the pistons are cycling ~15 times per second. And, the rings rotate ever so slightly as the engine runs, so its not like they are stuck in one spot. That said, it probably takes a few thousand miles for the finish on the cylinder walls to burnish in fully. Synthetic oil lubricates the parts more quickly, but I think wear in issues would be very minor.


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So if you are doing mostly short trips, I would recommend more frequent oil changes.

Yeah, like short 1/4 mile trips
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Yes, drag racing is very hard on engine oil. Lot's of metal gets sloughed off in those 12 seconds.


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No Drag racing here. This is "daddy's Toy". I'm retired so its strictly for pleasure. Bad weather, no problem, i'll take my Raptor. Real benefits with full syn, but after 22 yrs of military life, i'm a by the book weenie. I'm going to keep with the dino/syn oil. The weather here in Georgia has been kinda gloomy, but the sun is out and its 74 degrees, so off I go in the Bullitt. See a green blur on I-20 near exit 98? It's ME!
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I would be concerned that the rings may not be fully seated yet. And I've heard that switching to full synthetic might slow down the process.

Just my 2 cents...
Guess I'm old school too. On my '09, changed out the factory fill at 750, if I recall correctly. Then I ran 5-20 Castrol dino oil for the next 1,000 to seat rings....I thought. Then began using the mobil 1 5-20. Probably overkill, but change it annually, which is less than 5,000.

Maybe I did well, maybe I just lucked out. I've never had to add a quart between changes.
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I'll be dumping the factory oil around 1000 miles as well and all oil changes will be done by dealer during the warranty period just to eliminate any potential questions should an engine noise progress.
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I also have my service done on my 08 at the dealership. With their "Works" special, I can't do it much cheaper plus that includes tire rotation and topping off the fluids.

I just serviced my F150 myself but that was because I wanted to pull the wheels to check brakes, front end, wheel bearing, etc. Truck has >160K and was surprised how tight the front end was. Will be change brakes and repacking wheel bearing in the next couple of week.

My old Ranger is now over 325K. I have switched to Mobil 1 Extended. Trunk still uses no oil between changes. That thing is Bulletproof.
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Iíve got 500 miles on my Bullitt and Iím thinking ahead to 1000 miles. What are your thoughts on having the oil change at 1000 Miles?
I always do my new cars first oil and filter change at 1000 miles, then 3000 miles from then on for the life of the car. I using run a K&N filter or a Mopar Filter which is actually better than K&N and normally run Mobile One Synthetic oil. Once my vehicles hit 75,000 miles, I swap to the Mobile One high mileage oil. I never ad any additives of cleaners. That's a big No-No.
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