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First oil change?

Okay, sorry for the dumb question, but I’m curious when everyone is getting their first oil change done?
I’ve been planning on the 5,000 mile mark for mine, but I e heard arguments that “you should change it right after the 1,000-1,200 mile break in period” or “no, that’s too early” etc.
The manual from what I could glean was very vague. It basically says: “our onboard computer with alert you when you need an oil change so... you know... just don’t worry ‘bout it!”

So I’d love to hear how you guys are handling it.
Mileage? Weight and type you’re using in the change?
I’ll be getting mine done at the dealer because I have lifetime free service and want the least risk of future warranty arguments from
Ford. 😉
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I would get it done before 3000 miles. If you drive mostly short trips, a little sooner even. Make sure you check your oil when you pick it up from the dealer.
Those onboard oil minders are ????. My Honda one said I had 60% life after oil was in car 1 year, low mileage, but still.
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I guess I'm on the early first oil change side. I changed my oil on my 2017 Mustang at 1200 miles, then do it every 5000 miles after that. I use Mobil 1 full synthetic oil with Motorcraft filter. I also did the same with my 2001 Bullitt, however, I usually change the oil on it at less than 3000 miles due to the low number of miles I put on that car.
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I had user oil analysis done on my '15 Mustang GT (Gen 2 Coyote 5.0L, no DI), with the oil change every 7500 miles (about 14,000 miles/yr). That car was a daily driver in normal service conditions. Yes, the first oil change showed higher concentrations of metals. Yes, if you change early, then you remove those earlier. What I saw over the course of 7500 to when I traded in at around 52,000-ish miles was metal concentrations that were within normal tolerances by the third oil change. I had no issues with oil consumption.


On this engine, I will go to at least 5000 miles, mainly because I think I am on a course to drive it less than my '15 GT and because time will elapse. I understand oil life monitoring system uses algorithms which monitor engine usage and time, so that it will actually recommend an oil change after a long period, even if your miles are modest.


I've never had a car that had 10qts of oil in it, so this is a new one for me.


Anecdotally, some people have supposedly reporting hearing a "ticking noise" (not the "rattle" noise) more prominently after changing their oil earlier in the Gen 3 Coyote 5.0L ('18 model year on), however it would not necessarily prevent me from changing it earlier if I felt better about getting stuff out earlier. Someone posted in here about "break-in" oil (additives to the standard 5W20 done at the factory) that were probably worthwhile to let act on the engine, but at this point in my maintenance knowledge, I am really relying on the experience of my '15 GT to guide me. In theory, you could push the oil change out to 10,000 miles, but I wouldn't go that far because of my own comfort level.
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I plan on using Motorcraft 5W20 and oil filter as recommended in this car, just as I did in my '15 GT.
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for me, on new cars, I change it at 500 miles and then again at 1000 and then start my 3k intervals. but then, I tend to overdo it.....
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The first oil change for my '19 Bullitt was this Saturday at just short of 8,000 miles. Will follow, in general, the IOLM process which I have done on the prior 2015 Mustang GT as well as our 2012 Escape.

The oil, at 8,000 miles, was surprisingly clean looking.

For the 2001 Bullitt, I change the oil once a year, which is in the 2,000 to 3,000 mile range.


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Obviously some of you have a lot more experience on these hi performance engines in reference to many areas including oil.

My 2019 currently sits in the garage with about 60 miles on it.lol

It is a old guys toy. Mileage will always be low. It's always going to be used for fun not anything else. Don't shoot me for that remark.

My question is , is it the amount of time the oil is in the car or the miles put on the oil that is most important in these mustangs?

I appreciate any feedback. I also appreciate this forum because the members provide so much information about cars and especially the mustangs.

Thanks for that.
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I would say change it once a year no matter how little the mileage, or every 3000-5000 miles. Cars driven daily can stretch it out a bit more. If you are storing it, a fresh oil and filter change beforehand is good.
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I always change any new car at 1000 miles. Then 3000 after that from then on. Even though I run synthetic in all my vehicles I only go 3000 between oil/filter changes.
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Thanks guys!
I might go ahead and do it at the 2,000 mile mark so I can have everything looked over to make sure it’s wearing in properly. 😉
I’m still tempted to change to 5-30 at that point.
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Thanks guys!
I might go ahead and do it at the 2,000 mile mark so I can have everything looked over to make sure itís wearing in properly. 😉
Iím still tempted to change to 5-30 at that point.

I recommend you do a used oil analysis with Blackstone Labs. What you likely will see is a high concentration of some of the metals like what's been posted in the first analysis sheet above. From there, it's only over several oil changes that you will get data to see how things change and what wear looks like. Why are you interested in changing to 5W30?

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I wouldn't change unless the manual says you can run 5W30. The newer engines require whatever oil weight is recommended. Running a different weight could void your warranty.
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The manual says 5-30 is recommended for track use. I’m just not used to the requirements of today’s engines. 20 weight seems like running straight water to me.
So for simplicity of warranty claims I’ll stick to whatever is in it. 😉
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I recommend you do a used oil analysis with Blackstone Labs.

Tony

I really like that idea and went ahead and requested a sample kit. It's free and you only pay the 28.00 per test when you send in the sample for a analysis.
Always free shipping with anything you order from them.

I posted all that above information if others are interested.

My question to you is did you order the pump (35.00) for obtaining the sample for sending in to them?
Seems to me to be the way to go. But , I wanted to ask you for your opinion first.

Thanks for any information

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