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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 12-16-2018, 04:45 PM Thread Starter

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Running Choppy, didn't start?

So, my Bullitt is all original except Shaker air induction. It has only 28k miles so all factory plugs, etc. has run great, had it out for spin...even a few burnouts, all good though I could tell just a slight "miss"? Then I stopped to do hand spray car wash, careful to avoid water in shaker as always. It started up fine, I pulled out of wash bay and it started sputtering. I thought, something is wet, it will dissipate, but I could not give it any power. It died at light and would not re-start, but coughed & tried.

Got it home dried it out, there was water on intake, etc. today, a week later, would not start. Sprayed "starting fluid" in throttle body and it fired up...at least eliminating fuel items. I can still feel miss and as it runs it gets choppy again. I'm thinking COP didn't like it somewhere?

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You’ve got water in the the plug wells. Pull the coils and blow compressed air into the wells to get the water out. Let it air out overnight.
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Thanks, makes sense. Pull coils but not actual plugs out.

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Thanks, makes sense. Pull coils but not actual plugs out.


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Let us know if that works. Inspect the coils carefully for cracks.


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Same thing happened to 2455 3 weeks ago, 21,000 miles, took it for a drive, made a quick stop, started up fine and drove out of the parking lot, started missing, choking, and finally stopped running, cranked on it and it started but couldn't give it gas, got off the road and called the tow truck and took it to my local Ford dealer. Fuel Pump went out.
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I'm one "old skoolers" who still washes & dries my engine at the hand spray car wash maybe 1-2 times a month. In almost 10 years & 76K have never had a problem with a mis-fire or no start. After saying that, I worked at a carwash back in the 80's for a minute, and washed the engine on a V-Dub Rabbit as part of a detailing job, it had a miss afterward. The customer brought it back a week later and it still had the miss. Sent it to the shop & it turned out it had water in some sensor....that I had to pay for. I thought water would have evaporated after a week, but nope.

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after you determine the cause, i.e., water in the plug wells or a bad coil pack or fuel pump, then it will be time to figure out how all that water got down in there. if you have a stock style, Mach 1 shaker system, that should not have happened. do you have the drain tube hooked up?
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Due to ridiculous work travel schedule + weather, have not had chance to blow out plug wells. But two months later, it should have evaporated by now. I tried cranking it today, would not start...and frankly, made me think fuel as it started previously with ether help. Can we hear fuel pump whine before start up? I can't recall?

Serpent, as to your question, yes I do have drain lines hooked up. I believe this was fluke as I don't have underhood "guard" that finishes off look of hood opening when open. I believe water got into exposed hood structure, then leaked onto motor when slant of car wash created steep angle...then the problems started.

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water sitting that long without being removed could account for other problems now.

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Your problem sounds a LOT like a fuel pump (as others have said as well). Mine just went out with 130k miles, and occured after a 20min drive followed by filling up the tank. It started but then died 1/2 block later, after chugging horribly and failing to restart.
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followed by filling up the tank. It started but then died 1/2 block later, after chugging horribly and failing to restart.
At you sure you didn't get bad gas? Happened to my daughter a couple month's ago. Got about a block for gas station and car died. Towed to dealership and the tow truck driver advised that they had towed several other cars that had just filled up at the same station. Turns out the tow, repair and a rental car was covered by her comprehensive insurance and the gas station reimbursed her for her deductible.
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At you sure you didn't get bad gas? Happened to my daughter a couple month's ago. Got about a block for gas station and car died. Towed to dealership and the tow truck driver advised that they had towed several other cars that had just filled up at the same station. Turns out the tow, repair and a rental car was covered by her comprehensive insurance and the gas station reimbursed her for her deductible.
Sadly, 100% sure. Same station I have used for 6 months.
After replacing pump, used up the full tank no problem
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So getting back to the group as it was very interesting to find out, it was indeed a bad fuel pump!! Apparently, the whole car wash deal and potential water in plug sockets was bad coincidence. The Stealership wanted $609 just for the pump!! Based on comments here, I bought a Walbro for $158 and all is good!

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions.
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