I have been more than a little concerned about my Bullitt getting stolen. I met a fellow a few weeks ago who claimed to have had his Bullitt stolen right out of his driveway. I've been thinking about it ever since. I've never seen a post regarding this issue. I've always thought that burglar alarms were a bunch of noise and not much else. The Club? Ha! Lo-Jack? Good if you discover the theft right away and your local police department participates with the program. What are some of you doing? Any body have any stories or good suggestions? I personally hope my karma is good but you never know... Thanks, Tony
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I have a Black widow alarm system in mine. Heck if they want it bad enough I guess they could get it, but I want to make it hard to get.
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Well I have a pretty kick a$$ Viper alarm on mine but I mostly put it in for the "fun-stuff" ...remote start, remote windows that sorta thing. AND the main reason is to protect what valuables I have inside (radar detector,Wallet, cell phone, stereo) and it will probabaly stop an amateur theif but not a PRO! besides if they REALLY want it they will just back up to with a roll-back and away it will go BUT if you have a visual (blinking light) and audible (siren)(I have 2 outside and 1 inside :smile: ) deterrent then I think your chances are GREATLY reduced ~ and you get a small discount on your insurance if that helps :wink:
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adequate, I feel your concern. I have my daily driver parked outside the garage directly behind the Bullitt which is inside the garage. (daily driver is a block) I also
have some C4 explosives attached to the garage door keypad and side door that are deactivated via my retinal scan...I wish!
If they want it, they will get it...if I catch them, they will get my 12 guage Browning in their FACE! PERIOD!
have some C4 explosives attached to the garage door keypad and side door that are deactivated via my retinal scan...I wish!
If they want it, they will get it...if I catch them, they will get my 12 guage Browning in their FACE! PERIOD!
I did have a Code-Alarm along with a LoJack when I bought #169 but when it got wrecked, the electrical system burned them both out.
#1053 has neither, but it will have both as soon as I get up some more cash.
I have a cop with 2 attack dogs next door, so I'm not worried at home at least.
#1053 has neither, but it will have both as soon as I get up some more cash.
I have a cop with 2 attack dogs next door, so I'm not worried at home at least.
The nice thing about Ford's Passive Anti Theft System (PATS) is that it is a lot harder to steal our cars than just "jimmying" the ignition switch. If the code from the key doesn't match up, it won't start.
To get around this, smarter theives will just bring their own computer along that recognizes their key.
Or, to get around all this, they'll just tow your car away. Think about it, how many times have you seen a car getting towed? 99% of the time you assume it was illegally parked or it broke down.
So, in my humble opinion, it almost isn't worth it to get any kind of aftermarket alarm. But, I suppose that such a system may give you a break on insurance.
FYI: my insurance considers my Bullitt to have an alarm installed, since it came with PATS from the factory...
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To get around this, smarter theives will just bring their own computer along that recognizes their key.
Or, to get around all this, they'll just tow your car away. Think about it, how many times have you seen a car getting towed? 99% of the time you assume it was illegally parked or it broke down.
So, in my humble opinion, it almost isn't worth it to get any kind of aftermarket alarm. But, I suppose that such a system may give you a break on insurance.
FYI: my insurance considers my Bullitt to have an alarm installed, since it came with PATS from the factory...
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I'm currently trying to purchase a security system. Since we already have Ford's Passive Anti Theft System which includes others features such as auto trunk, panic mode, etc I thought I stay with the Ford dealer and have them order and install the security system for me. Reviewing the Ford 2001 accessories catalog lists four of these. None have descriptions so I emailed the Ford parts dealer asking them for a description of each along with a cost estimate of each to include installation charge. Well, my salesman called and left a message for me to call him. Now, I don't need any fancy security system but one that has at least two layers of protection. Do any of you know what is included in the following security systems from Ford?
System 3 ($97.14)
System 4 ($151.43)
System 5 ($178.57)
System 6 ($264.20)
Any recommendations or advice is appreciated!
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System 3 ($97.14)
System 4 ($151.43)
System 5 ($178.57)
System 6 ($264.20)
Any recommendations or advice is appreciated!
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I've got a Clifford on mine with a lot of features;
glass breakage detector, motion and a anti-hijack system.
Lots of other things can be added to the existing system. It can all be changed by the in-dash programmer, including the anti-hijack feature. $500.00 installed it took them 7 hours.
It does not kill the factory system, but you do get new remotes.
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glass breakage detector, motion and a anti-hijack system.
Lots of other things can be added to the existing system. It can all be changed by the in-dash programmer, including the anti-hijack feature. $500.00 installed it took them 7 hours.
It does not kill the factory system, but you do get new remotes.
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On 2002-03-03 03:51, SFBULL wrote:
I'm currently trying to purchase a security system. Since we already have Ford's Passive Anti Theft System which includes others features such as auto trunk, panic mode, etc I thought I stay with the Ford dealer and have them order and install the security system for me. Reviewing the Ford 2001 accessories catalog lists four of these. None have descriptions so I emailed the Ford parts dealer asking them for a description of each along with a cost estimate of each to include installation charge. Well, my salesman called and left a message for me to call him. Now, I don't need any fancy security system but one that has at least two layers of protection. Do any of you know what is included in the following security systems from Ford?
System 3 ($97.14)
System 4 ($151.43)
System 5 ($178.57)
System 6 ($264.20)
Any recommendations or advice is appreciated!</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>
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I have the System 3 with a shock sensor. It works OK (good enough for me). It has to get whaked pretty hard for the shock sensor to set it off. The light/valet switch is where the fog light switch would be and it looks factory. So I have the dash light and the alarm light. I can't actually recommend the Ford system, due to install cost. I may have gotten ripped off, but I paid almost $400 installed. I talked to 2 other shops after the fact and they said that they won't install the factory systems because they are diffucult to install. I think you can do better and get a better system installed cheaper by going after market.
System 3 is just the box that monitors the doors and trunk and has a starter lockout. System 4 adds a shock sensor and a siren. System 4 is the most you would need. I believe 5 adds keyless entry and 6 adds keyless entry, a siren and a shock sensor.
My main purpose for this was to help protect stuff inside and the PAS helps prevent the actual theft of the car.
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On 2002-03-03 03:51, SFBULL wrote:
I'm currently trying to purchase a security system. Since we already have Ford's Passive Anti Theft System which includes others features such as auto trunk, panic mode, etc I thought I stay with the Ford dealer and have them order and install the security system for me. Reviewing the Ford 2001 accessories catalog lists four of these. None have descriptions so I emailed the Ford parts dealer asking them for a description of each along with a cost estimate of each to include installation charge. Well, my salesman called and left a message for me to call him. Now, I don't need any fancy security system but one that has at least two layers of protection. Do any of you know what is included in the following security systems from Ford?
System 3 ($97.14)
System 4 ($151.43)
System 5 ($178.57)
System 6 ($264.20)
Any recommendations or advice is appreciated!</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>
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I have the System 3 with a shock sensor. It works OK (good enough for me). It has to get whaked pretty hard for the shock sensor to set it off. The light/valet switch is where the fog light switch would be and it looks factory. So I have the dash light and the alarm light. I can't actually recommend the Ford system, due to install cost. I may have gotten ripped off, but I paid almost $400 installed. I talked to 2 other shops after the fact and they said that they won't install the factory systems because they are diffucult to install. I think you can do better and get a better system installed cheaper by going after market.
System 3 is just the box that monitors the doors and trunk and has a starter lockout. System 4 adds a shock sensor and a siren. System 4 is the most you would need. I believe 5 adds keyless entry and 6 adds keyless entry, a siren and a shock sensor.
My main purpose for this was to help protect stuff inside and the PAS helps prevent the actual theft of the car.
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My insurance company obligated me to install Boomerang http://www.boomerangtracking.com/flash/fd_flash.html recovery system on my car
I know that these systems are only good if you find that the car is missing
But my car never “sleep out side” and rarely leave it less than a couple of hour with out
checking on it
Alarm system, to many of them goes off for nothing that people are use to ear them and they just ignore them and professionals theft know that.
I know that these systems are only good if you find that the car is missing
But my car never “sleep out side” and rarely leave it less than a couple of hour with out
checking on it
Alarm system, to many of them goes off for nothing that people are use to ear them and they just ignore them and professionals theft know that.
This topic comes up often on both the Cobra and Corvette forums.
The bottomline seems to be that any alarm system will not deter the professional thief. Ask yourself how many times you heard a car alarm go off, and see no one move/react. These kinds of alarms pretty much help to prevent kids from "joy riding" your car. Other types of devices, besides electronic ones, that one can easily implement include hidden igition and/or fuel switches, hidden remote battery disconnect switch, etc... Again, these won't stop the pro who will just take the car to a secure location, then figure out how to start it up (or just cut it up, or export it.) But they will help prevent "joy riders".
The best devices that can be purchased appear to be "thief reaction". Lo-Jack and even On-Star work really well with stolen car recovery. They're expensive, however, and they do not deter the actual theft. Some pro's can even disable these systems, but not all can.
Truly the best theft prevention is you, and what you do. Yes, a simple kill switch will prevent the "joy riders" - this is always a good idea, and maybe the PATS system is sufficient here. But, just like going into a large city, your best defense is awareness of your surrounding.
Park where you can see your car, or where with little effort you can get up to see your car - and check it, often. Don't valet park it. Park it where it there's a lot of foot traffic - it's easier to fix a little scratch or "door ding" than it is to loose it.
When at home, park it your garage, and leave your garage door closed - leaving your garage door open (with your car inside) is like advertising. Lock your garage door. Park your daily driver in front of your garage door. When going on vacation (or like absence), tell your neighbors that you're gone.
Last, make sure that your insurance is paid up and in good standing. It's truly painfull to loose a car that's loved - can you imagine how you'd feel if you thought your insurance was paid up, and it wasn't!
Hope this helps...
Have Fun,
Randy R...
The bottomline seems to be that any alarm system will not deter the professional thief. Ask yourself how many times you heard a car alarm go off, and see no one move/react. These kinds of alarms pretty much help to prevent kids from "joy riding" your car. Other types of devices, besides electronic ones, that one can easily implement include hidden igition and/or fuel switches, hidden remote battery disconnect switch, etc... Again, these won't stop the pro who will just take the car to a secure location, then figure out how to start it up (or just cut it up, or export it.) But they will help prevent "joy riders".
The best devices that can be purchased appear to be "thief reaction". Lo-Jack and even On-Star work really well with stolen car recovery. They're expensive, however, and they do not deter the actual theft. Some pro's can even disable these systems, but not all can.
Truly the best theft prevention is you, and what you do. Yes, a simple kill switch will prevent the "joy riders" - this is always a good idea, and maybe the PATS system is sufficient here. But, just like going into a large city, your best defense is awareness of your surrounding.
Park where you can see your car, or where with little effort you can get up to see your car - and check it, often. Don't valet park it. Park it where it there's a lot of foot traffic - it's easier to fix a little scratch or "door ding" than it is to loose it.
When at home, park it your garage, and leave your garage door closed - leaving your garage door open (with your car inside) is like advertising. Lock your garage door. Park your daily driver in front of your garage door. When going on vacation (or like absence), tell your neighbors that you're gone.
Last, make sure that your insurance is paid up and in good standing. It's truly painfull to loose a car that's loved - can you imagine how you'd feel if you thought your insurance was paid up, and it wasn't!
Hope this helps...
Have Fun,
Randy R...
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My wife talked me into getting the Stealth system from the dealer. It requires a second remote, no buzzers or sirens, and no motion detectors. It simply turns off the electrical system of the car, sort of, until the remote is pressed. Then it rearms itself after 30 seconds. It is supposed to be virtually impossible to duplicate the code because it has some bazillion cotillion alternating codes or something. The only way to get around it is to break the window, pop the hood, remove the chip, and replace it with the factory chip. So unless you are carrying around a mustang factory chip you cannot start the car. It also comes with guaranties that if it is stolen they will pay you $2000 in cash towards your deductible.
With that being said, it satisfied my wife, therefore, serves its purpose to me. I really had carrying the extra remote though. BTW, there is an extra button on the remote that can be used with a similar garage door opener system. Also, you do not ever have to arm it because it arms itself every 30 seconds. It does not prevent them from getting into your car, just from taking it.
Keep in mind that all of this information came from the dealer, and we all know how knowledgeable they are.
With that being said, it satisfied my wife, therefore, serves its purpose to me. I really had carrying the extra remote though. BTW, there is an extra button on the remote that can be used with a similar garage door opener system. Also, you do not ever have to arm it because it arms itself every 30 seconds. It does not prevent them from getting into your car, just from taking it.
Keep in mind that all of this information came from the dealer, and we all know how knowledgeable they are.
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twin colt 45s protect my baby, stashed under the seat of course.
Bullitt #890 DHG
Bullitt #890 DHG
Thanks to everyone for their info especially to CPeders! $400 dollars is quite a bit for the System3 (will need to do more research and keep an eye on this thread). I'm also just looking for a system to protect the stuff I have inside.
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Holy Cow! There's a lot to think about! Some of these systems sound pretty good. I know that if the Pro's want it, they'll get it. I suppose it all boils down to keeping the honest thieves from stealing it. I keep mine in the garage when at home and it's safe at work but suppose you go to a movie?
Oh well, one can't live in constant apprehension. Viet Nam was enough for one lifetime..
Oh well, one can't live in constant apprehension. Viet Nam was enough for one lifetime..
I bought one of those pedal locks that lock the clutch pedal in place. Cost $40 or $50 and looks to me like its more protection then the Club. I have no illusion that it would stop a pro that really wanted the car but the more difficult you can make it for the scum the more likely they will move on to an easier target.
Adding to the great common sense suggestions from Cobra 427, if you are going to be gone from home for more than a day and have an electric garage door opener, take the time to go back in the house and turn off the power to the opener at your fuse box.
Adding to the great common sense suggestions from Cobra 427, if you are going to be gone from home for more than a day and have an electric garage door opener, take the time to go back in the house and turn off the power to the opener at your fuse box.
On TV I saw an ex-profession car thief give a demo how to get around the club. He just took bolt cutters, cut the wheel and slid the club right off in 5 seconds.
Here in the Las Vegas Metro area, besides stealing cars, these thieves go after the airbags more than anything else.
Here in the Las Vegas Metro area, besides stealing cars, these thieves go after the airbags more than anything else.
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