Anyone using C&L 80mm MAS with a Vortech or ATI Procharger?

mjchip
I'll be happy to answer your question but I'd really like an answer to the one I asked first. Seems like a lot of these threads can't maintain any "focus" and the topic wanders all over creation.

In deference to "your" question: The Orange Code Sample Tube has a slightly smaller port than the Black coded one. This, according to a technician at C&L, results in a slightly more aggressive response out of the Electronic Engine Controls. I changed to the Orange tube because my dyno results after adding the C&L were virtually identical except for the average HP increasing by 0.3 HP and average Torque went down slightly by 1.8 ft-lb. This could be attributable to the fact that the Atmospheric Pressure was about 0.5 inHg lower and the Air Inlet Temperature 12 degrees hotter than my previous dyno test. I know the dyno software is supposed to correct for most of this but just about every dyno operator will tell you that all of it cannot be corrected out.

I haven't had a chance to re-dyno since changing to the Orange Tube but responsiveness by "SOTP" seems quicker and I have picked up another mph through my little marked off quarter mile. :wink:

Now...can anyone answer "my" original question; the topic of this thread?


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Bullitt680,

Thanks for answering my question. The reason I ask it is because after adding my 80mm C&L, my SOTP meter tells me that either my power/torque has remained the same or may have even dropped. My calculations show that the ratio of areas is identical to the stock MAF but that the restriction is removed opening the bottleneck to match the TB flow area. What this means is that the programmed air/fuel/load map in the PCM should still be accurate. I actually don't expect too much gain from this until...........I supercharge my car. I'm thinking of going with either a twin-screw or centrifical blower sometime next spring and have made the exhaust/intake mods thoughtfully to support that effort. That is why I intially read this thread. I hope that someone knowledgable can answer it. You may want to post it over at Corral.net and Stangnet.com. Good luck and thanks for answering my question!

Mark

Okay People...
Let me try to rephrase my question. "What MAF Sensor are YOU using with YOUR S/C Setup." Please list MAF Make & Size, Injector Size, Boost Level, Make of S/C Kit and if running Intercooled or not.

I'm planning on either a Vortec or ATI S/C kit being installed on my BULLITT this February. That's why I'm wanting to get some of the details ironed out.

Thanks

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DHG BULLITT #680
Dyno'd Factory Stock @ 1525 Miles...
235 RWHP and 279 RWTRQ

Mods:
C&L 80mm MAS with Orange Sampling Tube.
Running AMSOIL 5w-20 Synthetic in the engine.
Making preps to add a Vortech 10 psi Intercooled S/C Kit.

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I'm running the 8/9 psi without the cooler. I'm not having any probs with the A/F mix but I have a third chip coming to try to eliminate the detonation I'm getting at around 5000 RPM and 6 pounds of boost. They can't seem to get the timing dialed in right, they must just bump it down a degree at a time or something, hell I don't know but it gets frustrating not being able to use the full power after spending 5 grand on the mod. The good thing is once you send them your computer once, you don't have to send it again, they just send chips to exchange. Power seems to start being noticable, realistically around 3 grand from my SOTP meter. Once they get it dialed in I'm taking it to Brothers Performance to get it dynoed and I'll let you know what it does.

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Jay, Irvine CA
True Blue #4660
Vortech supercharged / Steeda Tri-Ax / Ford alum D/S / 30mm wheel spacer / Xenon rear spoiler / Powerslot rotors & Hawk HPS pads / MGW interior

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