[PaLiAcH]

anyone hear of these? they say its good because it comes already with an intercooler for the same price as Vortech's base setup (w/o aftercooler) and puts out 8 psi... any comments? also the intercooler is waaay bigger than vortechs little "box"

 

[Barnaby]

The reason that the intercooler is larger is because it is air-to-air vs Vortech's air-to-water. Different designs, same results. As for ATI...hmmmm, a good friend of mine owns a local Mustang shop and has done many SC installs. Vortech, ATI, Paxton. The only cars that have failed in some way after the SC install have been ATIs. They have all failed for different reasons, but no Vortech or Paxton cars have failed. Probably a coincidence, but worth noting.

ATIs seem to make more power though.:smile:

Check to see if ATIs kits come with injectors, for some reason I don't think they do. And they will recommend 42# units for our cars, at a cost of around $400.

You gotta ask yourself this; If it's the same price and includes an intercooler that normally runs $1000+ where are they cutting corners to make any money?

Needless to say my vote is Vortech, all of the units I have owned have run flawless the entire time I owned them.

Before you buy anything be an informed consumer. Call all of the companies you are looking at and ask a lot of questions. Talk to speed shops in your area and ask a lot of questions. Talk to people that own each one, see why they bought the one they did.

 

[JB VOBRA]

I have to agree with Barnaby.

Take an ATI head unit and sit it next to a paxton or vortech head unit. The workmanship difference is noticeable.

I've had a non-inter/after cooled vortech strim on my 98 cobra for three years. Has been 100% reliable pushing a showroom stock block at 450rwhp.

 

[lee50guru]

I dissagree. ATI and PAxton/Vortech all have the same workmanship and failure rates. The only ones I've ever seen fail are due to operator (or installation facility) ignorance.

The most noticable difference between them all is that while ATI kits will usually make more power at the same boost level, they are SIGNIFICANTLY noisier. If you've ever heard a Vortech V-1 with a bad bearing, that's what an ATI sounds like always. It's very distinctive, and there will be no doubt you're packing a blower. The quitest of the bunch would be the Vortech V-1SQ, then the Novi's then ATIs.

ATI kits are more complex to install, as you must install the intercooler (optional on the other kits), and move the battery, but if you don't have all of the stock accessories, or have removed the A/C, it's really a pain to make the Vortech/Paxton setup work without going to race bracketry (more $$).

Hope this helps.

 

[Forced]

Ok guys, I gotta throw this in. It is from our FAQ page.

Vortech Engineering, LLC has conducted extensive testing of most intercoolers/aftercoolers currently on the market. Test results indicate that for street driven purposes below 8-9 PSIG, installing an aftercooler has marginal effects when using a Vortech supercharger (due to the high efficiency of the supercharger). Nearly all of the intercoolers/aftercoolers available on the market have poor effectiveness and actually can cause parasitic losses equal to or greater than the power gained by installing a intercooler/aftercooler. Vortech has developed systems which are substantially more effective at lowering discharge temperatures without causing driveability problems and pressure drops thru the cooling core and ducting.

All of the FAQs are here:
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/tech/faq.html

 

[Barnaby]

Thanks Steve.:smile:

 

[BULLITTBRO1]

Ok Ok, Now you got me into this. I want to get a SC, but like others have no Idea what I want. So after reading you thougths I still have no Idea, this is what I am looking for 8-9lbs sc at a decent price, and all the other nick nack that i need to go with it. any help is great