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The wife and I went SUV shopping today and checked out the new Explorer. Of course I had to ask the salesman if they sold any Bullitts. He told me that in order to get a Bullitt they had to order an allotment of other Mustangs. This sounds nuts to me.What if I had wanted to order a Bullitt from this dealer and couldn't because they didn't meet Ford's quota? If anyone out there can clarifiy this I'd like to hear it.
By the way-Exploders seem to be designed for women. Right now my vote is for the GMC Envoy. More horsepower in a inline 6 than a Mustang GT!
 

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Maybe there is some truth to what they told you. When I ordered my Bullitt last March the dealership was planning on ordering two. One for each of their locations. Later they told me that Ford would only allow them one car. I guess I was in the right place at the right time when I placed my order
 

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The Dealership that I purchased 227 from sold something like 5 Bullitts. They said that they were told they could have just so many to sell.

The interesting thing now is they are looking for a NEW Bullitt to replace 227. To may times to the Body shop for the same problems so they are going to replace it if they can get a new one.

Take care.

Bud
 

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My folks visited a Ford shop where they live. That dealer didn't get -any- Bullitts to sell.

They had to meet a quota, either Mustangs or all Fords.

The next time you're at a small Ford dealer- ask how many Tbirds they have.
 

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Ford is trying to force all the mom and pop operators out of business that is why they came up with the blue oval cert program because they knew that the small dealerships could not afford to meet all of there standards and training. Ford only wants mega dealerships now so that they wont have so many dealers out there so if u live in a small town with a small dealer dont be suprised in the future if u see a going out of business sign.
Just another slam to consumers. So if u live in a small town plan on driving a long way for warranty work.

JMHO Thanx Havgun #1676
 

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Not just Ford--Chrysler did the same thing with their PT
Cruisers when dealers were dying to get their hands on them--'special' allotment programs. Funny-folks wanting to buy 03 Cobra's are complaining big time (don't blame them) on dealers charging thousands over MSRP when it appears the manufactures 'do' a similiar thing to their dealerships-'want the hot car on your lot then buy X number of other cars..." Everyone trying to make a buck.

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It's not just with Bullitts or T-Birds either.

I sent a guy from work to the dealership in Vegas where I bought #169 to get a new F-250 4X4 Diesel and they couldn't sell him what he wanted because they weren't allocated very many trucks. They really wanted to sell him what he wanted, but had to send him to another Ford dealer that sold more trucks.

BTW, my dealer sells more Mustangs than any dealer in Nevada. Go figure.
 

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While I was calling around to the area dealerships here in Washington State. I was told that each dealership gets an allotment based on a percentage of there total sales . Thus large dealership that sold more would get a certain allotment of "BULLITTS" for there dealership.It doesn't matter how big the dealership is . If the dealership is moving cars , trucks at a phenominal rate , then why not send more "BULLITTS" to that dealership than say the one that moves one car a month. When I called around to these dealerships I found that some got 15 others recieved 10 and some only recieved 1 or 2 and some didn't get any . I even found that some dealerships traded with one another to get "BULLITTS" on there lot cuz they sold there allottment and people were lookin for "BULLITTS". Where I bought mine the allottment was 10 of that, I was told they had picked to have delivered 4 green 3 black and 3 blue. It was up to the person in charge of ordering to choose what colors they wanted . Ford basically said to each dealer that qualified for "BULLITTS" "You get six Mustangs" "You pick the colors" "You put them on your lot or showroom and you sell them " Another way of saying this is [ And I say this for the humor of it all} " You get six BULLITTS". "You decide the caliber" " You put them in the chamber and shoot".
 

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The dealership where I got my Bullitt is a smaller one. They were allotted 3 Bullitts (I was the first in Spokane to order one) and another dealership here, which is very large and is a SVT dealer, only got 1 Bullitt! So it goes to show!

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I live near a big dealership in Spring, TX called Planet Ford. They do a land office business, but I never saw more than 3 Bullitts there. By comparison, Tomball Ford, where I bought mine, sold at least 9 Bullitts. Tomball does far more truck business, and they are an SVT dealer. It was interesting when I went to see mine for the first time, and it was sitting in the middle of the showrrom floor with a white Cobra right beside it.

The allotment may be true for the smaller dealers, but the big boys have different rules.
 

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The dealership where i bought mine said they had to take a certain amount of reg.mustangs before they could buy a Bullitt.Also the Bullitts had to be bought by the dealership and not placed there on consignment like the others.
 

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With a limited edition product like the PT Cruiser and the Bullitt, the car companies will designate who gets them and who doesn't. The dealer where I got my Bullitt only got about 3 Bullitts in and I am positive they picked up every one of those from other dealerships (I know that for sure with my car and one other DHG they got from a dealer in BC). Yet this dealership is a high volume dealer with Mustangs galore all over the new car lot. Dealerships like the one I bought from probably did not know how well the Bullitts would sell when they first came out, so they simply "shyed" away from ordering them early on and then later when they saw the interest and wanted to get some, they were already all allotted. The dealerhip's only option later was to trade between dealerships. It really comes down to the courage of the person who orders stock (in addition to what they have sold in the past).

I have heard manufacturers will designate a limited number of cars (i.e. Bullitt cars) per state or province and then they are allotted based on past sales performance. That is why the big guys may get them and the little guys suffer. I am sure Ford keeps the dealerships happy that help push specific products better. Example: if a strong Mustang dealership sells very few (if any) F350's, they will likely not be allotted any F350's (with the F350's trucks going to dealerships that push trucks more than Mustangs). And vice versa.... the strong Mustang dealers get preference on Mustangs/Bullitts.

As far as the smaller dealerships fading out, one of the reasons is they can't afford to keep up with changing technology requirements. It costs dealers a fortune to keep up with required changes. That is another reason why a lot of them don't have paint shops any longer. They simply don't have the new car volume to warrant investing in adequate test equipment and staff training. And then they can't afford to pay top dollar for the well-trained staff. Consider the cost of keeping up on the marketing end.... like the cost of all those new signs the dealers had to put up in the last year or so. Not sure how a small dealership could afford to keep up with it (when they are required to as part of their operating agreement).

Sorry for the ranting on here, will sign off now.





<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Bulittt on 2002-03-11 14:22 ]</font>
 

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The dealership where I got mine,Bremerton,Wa.,got three. One of each color.
 

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All car manufacture's do this, drive by a small Chevy store and you will be lucky to see a Vette, let alone a Z06. Back in May of last year I tried to buy an Escape for my better half and could not find a selection on even the larger lots. I found out that the Escape allotments where tied the the dealerships Explorer sales volume, ditto for the "Bullitts" but to the Mustang sales. What one needs to realize is that these dealerships do not typically own their inventory, they are foor planned and banks own the inventory. So while a vehicle is sitting on the dealers lot un-sold, the dealership is incurring costs for the note, storage, damage, detailing, etc. So it makes sense for the dealerships that knows they can move this type of car, because they sell a hell of a lot of Mustangs to get their hands on them to sell and the dealership that only sells 10 cars a month not to incure the costs for example of having a 55,000 Lincoln Navigator sitting and not selling while paying the interest on it to the bank. As far as the Envoy vs. the Explorer:compare the Explorer with the 4.6l to the Envoy and I am pretty sure the Exlorer puts up better acceleration and towing figures as I have seen them stated in a magazine. As we know it is not just about HP it is about torque and typically inline motors put up some nice torque figures (the old 300CID straight six in F150's) but it all leads back to what you are going to do with the vehicle.The new Explorer has the 3rd row of seats (not available in the GM's) I have read until Mid-model year and I am sure at a much steeper price because they had to extend the vehicle, its like a $700 option on the Explorer. Also the GM's don't have a independent rear suspension which is standard. The thing that scares me the most about the GM's with the inline six is that the front drive shafts run through the middle of the oil pan to allow the motor to sit lower in the chassis and depending how it is done and how it is sealed (vehicles that have done this in the past have been a nightmare) I am a little unsure about the mechanical feasablity of this because one would have to yank the drive line to drop the oil pan (if it ever needed to be) and that would require major labor expenses.Sorry for the long rant....Dealership info I recieved from my neighbor who's family once owned a dealership and my better half who dealt with car dealers for the last four years..I have a 2002 4 X 4 Dark Highland Green Explorer and have a little over 10k miles and no problems to speak of....I can't pry it away from my better half....thats the only problem....

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Bullitt allotment was determined by number of Mustangs sold/ year. My dealership in CT is the largest in the state for volume. Most of its business is commercial leasing to the state, taxi cab companies, GELCO, etc. But, because they sell very few Mustangs, they were orginally denighed (sp?) any at all. It took the owner of the dealership putting pressure on the region to get my order and another fellows.

BTW: If you are looking for a new Cobra, they can only be ordered at a dealership that is licenced for SVT vehicles by Ford. :-B
 

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When I purchased 227 they said they were going to only have 3 Bullitts total. That was all they were aloted. But I know they sold 7. So I have a feeling the rules changed depending on sales in the area :wink:.

Now if they can just find another one for me.

Take care.

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I think it had a lot to do with sales of mustangs first, sales of cars second, batching loudly third. Mine took six months but the dealer did trade other cars for two black ones that I know of. The sales manager opted not to buy any bullitts.
 

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When I was looking back in July, there was only one (1) Bullitt (black) out of five (5) local dealerships. This dealer would not even allow a test drive. (On a side note, when I told the salesman, who had the Black Bullitt, that I was looking for DHG, he said "good luck, they're only making 100 green ones" :smile:)

By late August, when a lot of Bullitts seemed to hit the market, the largest volume local dealer had nine (9) on his lot at one time.

I bought mine from a dealer in Atlanta that got 7 or 8.
 

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The dealer where I got 1521 in Kaladar Ont. had two. A true blue and a DHG. He mentioned that for every Bullitt he sold he would receive an equal amount of whatever the new edition would be. Mach 1 & Boss 302, I would assume. He originally mentioned the next car was going to be a Shelby though, not a Mach. Guess he was wrong on that one.
 

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Ford determines dealership allotment based on the # of vehicles of a particular model that the dealership sells the previous year. There are other considerations as well, such as CAFE requirements and units that Ford is trying to move in a particular market. My dealership is the largest volume dealer in our zone, but we only got 3 Bulltts. This is because the majority of our business is truck and SUV sales. Our general manager used to work for Ford, so he can usually make some calls to get an additional allocation. Dealer will also dealer trade for vehicles they need more of. The dealer can also make deals with the Ford reps. They can trade off, for example, if we want to get 20 Escapes and we have allocation for 12. Ford will say, OK, you can get 20 Escapes, but we're also going to send you 40 Explorers, instead of 30. So if you want more Escapes to sell, you'll have to sell more Explorers as well.

That's the quick lesson on allocation and why some dealers cannot always place a factory order for a particular vehicle.
 
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