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Well I wanted to share this with everyone considering I am an optimist.My dealership is now adding this so to speak new technology to anyone who is willing to pay $699.00.Does anyone know or has heard about this?I thought at first it was one of those (Tornado) gimmicks you see on TV.The dealership ran a pilot run on some of their vehicles and has proof there is a 10-25% increase in mileage.Maybe someone here can shine more light on this subject.
 

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Well I wanted to share this with everyone considering I am an optimist.My dealership is now adding this so to speak new technology to anyone who is willing to pay $699.00.Does anyone know or has heard about this?I thought at first it was one of those (Tornado) gimmicks you see on TV.The dealership ran a pilot run on some of their vehicles and has proof there is a 10-25% increase in mileage.Maybe someone here can shine more light on this subject.
Never heard of it. But, like my pappy always said, "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is."
 

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27 cases of Beano

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There is going to be a lot of crap on the market right now to rip you off.Save gas at the cost of 600+ dollars.Let's do the math.At $4 a gallon that is 150+ gallons.HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.Send me the money and I'll send you a video of my GT500 exploits at the drag strip.I guarantee that it will be much more worthwhile.Hell for that price I'll let you make as many passes in it as you can.How's that for bang for the buck.Save your money.
 

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There is going to be a lot of crap on the market right now to rip you off.Save gas at the cost of 600+ dollars.Let's do the math.At $4 a gallon that is 150+ gallons.HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.Send me the money and I'll send you a video of my GT500 exploits at the drag strip.I guarantee that it will be much more worthwhile.Hell for that price I'll let you make as many passes in it as you can.How's that for bang for the buck.Save your money.
That's my thinking too.My dealership is giving a 90 day money back guarantee.Some of the employees have had this installed and swear by it.I would be willing to try it for free and then make a decision.I have a Fusion as a daily driver that gets 24 mpg city and 36 mpg hwy.I would be willing if I could get another 10 mpg.
 

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If this stuff worked no body would have to sell it, it would sell by its self. When I see the name vortex, I move away.
 

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"NASA Ortho Hydrogen Technology"?

Are you F'n kiddin' me?

"Ortho Hydrogen" and "Para Hydrogen" refers to the spin-alignment of a dihydrogen molecule (two paired hydrogen atoms in "pure" hydrogen). "Ortho" refers to the spin of both atoms being the same-direction, "Para" means they spin opposite one-another. Ortho Hydrogen is the "natural" form pure Hydrogen takes, until you cool it down close to Absolute-Zero, then it "decays" into Para Hydrogen.

As gasoline is a REALLY COMPLEX compound made up of strings of Hydrogen and Carbon atoms with no "pure Hydrogen" in it anywhere how is it two $20 magnets are going to introduce a spin at the sub-atomic level that would occur anyway, if you were you running pure Hydrogen in your vehicle (which in NO way affects its "combustibility" anyway)?
 

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"NASA Ortho Hydrogen Technology"?

Are you F'n kiddin' me?

"Ortho Hydrogen" and "Para Hydrogen" refers to the spin-alignment of a dihydrogen molecule (two paired hydrogen atoms in "pure" hydrogen). "Ortho" refers to the spin of both atoms being the same-direction, "Para" means they spin opposite one-another. Ortho Hydrogen is the "natural" form pure Hydrogen takes, until you cool it down close to Absolute-Zero, then it "decays" into Para Hydrogen.

As gasoline is a REALLY COMPLEX compound made up of strings of Hydrogen and Carbon atoms with no "pure Hydrogen" in it anywhere how is it two $20 magnets are going to introduce a spin at the sub-atomic level that would occur anyway, if you were you running pure Hydrogen in your vehicle (which in NO way affects its "combustibility" anyway)?
I love you smart guys that can put it straight forward!

So is the accelerator really going to cause a black hole that will suck the earth into the base of the Swiss Alps?

Or can it really lead us into controlled fusion reactors?
 

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but why pay $700 at the stealship when you can buy one off ebay for $20???



who was it that said 'There's one born every minute' ?

NOTE: this comment is NOT aimed at anyone here, but is a comment on society at large where scams like this can thrive...




this is another case of don't walk, run to the exits...



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If those are stealership employees who "swear by it", I'd seek an outside independent opinion. In this economy, those employees may swear to anything to keep their jobs.

You might want to read these reviews before you plunk down yer money...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/1802932.html?page=2

http://www.gassavers.org/showthread.php?t=164

to save some searching, this is what popular mechanics has to say on 'magnetic' fuel savers:

Popular Mechaincs said:
There are dozens of fuel-line magnets on the market. We tested two. They all make similar claims: substantial improvements in fuel economy, reduced emissions and increased horsepower.

According to the people selling these devices, as gasoline flows past the magnet, the magnetic field will "break apart clusters of fuel molecules so gas burns more efficiently." Problem: Gasoline molecules aren't magnetic, not at all. But wait, there's more. If the fuel line is steel, as many are, the lines of magnetic flux will follow the fuel-line walls instead of passing through the fuel.

THE DYNO SAYS: As we suspected, neither device had any significant effect on performance or economy.

Worse yet are 'vortex' devices (ones that screw with the incoming airflow:

Popular Mechanics said:
Again, we tested two devices. The TornadoFuelSaver is a nicely made stainless steel contraption, available in an assortment of sizes to fit most vehicles. We installed it on our truck's intake tract immediately upstream of the MAF sensor. We purchased the second device, the Intake Twister, on eBay. It was crudely handmade from sheet-aluminum flashing and pop rivets. It looked like something we could make in about 10 minutes from an old soda can. The staff at UTI was reluctant to install it: The bent sheetmetal vanes looked as if they might break off and be digested by the engine. The device is one-size-fits-all, and is simply bent into a curl to insert it into the intake duct.

THE DYNO SAYS: Both devices reduced peak horsepower by more than 10 percent. The Intake Twister increased fuel consumption by about 20 percent; the TornadoFuelSaver provided no significant change.
 
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