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Just talked to Ed Gentile at Cleartastic.
I relayed to him the results of what I
have observed regarding protecting the
holograms with Cleartastic. Now I will
relay them to Bullittclub too.

After covering both holograms with
Cleartastic for about 3 months, I took
the cleartastic off to see what was going
on with the black ink. No ink was visible
on the cleartastic...looked for ink flecks
under 10X, 90X, 400X magnification...
no ink. However there was a ghost image
of "BULLITT" and the "number" on the
cleartastic. Noticed it on the shock tower
cleartastic first. Inspected rear seat riser
cleartastic next and it had the ghost images
too...so heat does not seem to be a factor.
There is definitly a reaction occurring
between the cleartastic and the ink.
(the ghost images)
Long term (>3 months) who knows what could
happen. If the cleartastic was put on and
never taken off, it would not matter.
I have decided to not use the cleartastic
on my holograms just to be safe.
My car does not get dirty so the shock
tower hologram is safe. I will put clear-
tastic on it when taken in for servicing
for short term protection. I used the
wax paper found next to the rear seat
hologram to protect it from the carpet
rubber backing. I believe that the two
hologranms were originally attached to
this wax paper. (Mr. T might know)

Also, Ed has told me that cleartastic
now has UV inhibitors. My cleartastic
is about 3 years old and does not have
this...therefore it's chemical composition
is slightly different. The newer cleartastic
may not ghost as a result.

For those that are using the cleartastic
on their holograms, let me know what you
have found.

Ed has also told me that paint protection
for door sills and under the nose covers at
high friction areas is in the works.

Don't know if it is best for the holograms
but it is awesome for paint and headlight
protection!
Don't forget, Cleartastic is engineered for
paint protection! It may have other
applications that are less vulnerable than
the ink on our holograms such as headlight
lenses. (works great on the lenses!)

In my opinion it is a top notch product!

Mr. Gentile at Cleartastic is a great guy
and is great to talk to. He has a genuine
interest in our needs at Bullittclub.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: PY on 2002-01-03 22:28 ]</font>
 

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Good information. I wonder if part of the ghosting is because the ink is not UV rated as well. There could be problems with these stickers unless we cover them with something if the ink is not UV capable. I do have UV spray I use on artwork and prints, but not so sure what it would do on the sticker. I also have noticed that 227's text has started to fade. That is really what makes me think it may not be UV protected. I do NOT wash in that area and have not rubbed any ink off so it really looks like it's fading.

Maybe Clearstatic can make a UV cover that is the shape of our stickers.

Thanks again for the data, it's good to know.

Bud
 

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Yes, Ed did mention that he could make
an oval for the hologram depending on
how many Bullittheads wanted them.
 

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I know I would be intersted in this :wink:

Thanks

Bud
 

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Thanks PY for starting the thread. Hopefully others who have tried this will let us know their experiences. Maybe this will be the quick fix to the problem!
If so we would be more then happy to work on something for you guys. :grin:

Let me just back up a second and explain a little further how we got to this point.

For those of you who don’t know, we currently provide kits to protect your vehicles paint from flying rock and road debris without drilling and mounting mud flaps or using adhesives.
PY had purchased a kit from us years ago (to protect behind the front and rear wheels of another vehicle he had) He had sold that vehicle, but kept our kit. Since our kits are pre cut and shaped to fit specific models he could not use that kit on his current Bullitt. However because he liked the characteristics of our film (especially no adhesives) he had a great idea to cover and protect the hologram.

He had contacted me about this and I advised him that we have never used our film for this type of application so I had no data at this time. PY and myself realized this is a problem with the Bullitts and should be addressed.
We thought by posting his experiment, it might get some feedback, someone else’s findings, some opinions and by working together we might resolve this problem quicker.
I will also start to dig into this problem and I will let you know my findings…

Once again, thanks PY and thank you bullittheads. :grin:

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Thanks for doing this experiment, this is good info. If I put something over mine, I probably would never take it off, since I can't think of a reason why I would remove it. Therefore, do you think there is any long term effects if it stays on? I assume the ghosting would only be visible when removed. :smile:
 

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To MOLJAY
Yes, the ghosting is only visible on the
Cleartastic. It is also very, very faint.
The ghosting is NOT noticable when in place over the hologram. I am a "tinker nut" so I like to take things on and off. If Cleartastic is put on the holograms
and NEVER removed it is ideal! But if you put it on the holograms and say took it off in 1 year or 5 years or 20 years etc., we don't know what would happen with the ink. The longest it was on my holograms was 3 months. When removed the ink was NOT
affected.


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Thanks PY, that sounds like a good option for me then. Cleartastic, do you make a small sheet, or will you be making a pre-cut size that would cover our stickers? I am interested either way.
 

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Great info! I wish I would've known about this earlier. I accidently rubbed the numbers off of the sticker in the engine bay. I'll be able to protect the second sticker under the rear seat with this though.
 

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<TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font size=-1>Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT SIZE=-1><BLOCKQUOTE>
On 2002-01-02 13:09, MOLJAY wrote:
Thanks PY, that sounds like a good option for me then. Cleartastic, do you make a small sheet, or will you be making a pre-cut size that would cover our stickers? I am interested either way.

</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>Probably (or at least to start) a small x by x that you can cut to fit the way you want. :grin:

Does anyone know the height and length of the sticker?

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The dimensions are 2 and 3/8 inches wide and
15/16 of an inch tall...to be exact.
It is an oval like the Ford oval.

Could it be cut in this oval with say a 1/2
to 3/4 inch overlap onto the paint?

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The labels were originally on a completely clear piece of film. Don't know the EXACT material.
 

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Thanks Mr. T! I do know that the wax
type paper was next to the aft hologram.
It was folded into thirds and tucked about
4 inches to the right of the aft hologram.
Guess it depends on who is on the line and
what their mood is...anything can be put
anywhere...right?
What do you think this paper was for?



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Can you get that product in Canada? I'm in Toronto and unfortunately I have to drive my Bullitt year round and would love to get Cleartastic for my hologram. If I never take it off it should protect the hologram indefinitely. I hope.
 

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I just ordered Cleartastic. They are sending me the rear sheets plus a 4"x4" piece for my hologram. I'll put it on and report in the spring how winter salt does or does not affect the film. I was told there is no problem. Looking forward to protecting the hologram.
 

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I still don't really understand the huge issue surrounding the ID sticker. What's the big deal about being able to take the cover off? What do you gain by doing that? My solution still: clear packing tape cut into an oval and slapped over the hologram. Do you think Ford's solution would be any different? Or more to the point, do you think you would even be able to tell it had packing tape over it? I doubt it. And even if you could, how would this affect your car? Is this going to screw up the resale value? Come on guys, let's get real.

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