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On 2001-10-11 12:22, Green Pony wrote:
I had a dealer lose a key once. And them it took them 4 hrs to reprogram the new one. They didn't know how to. I ended up telling to look in the owners manual. It said how to do it. It took a total of 5 Minutes.
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Actually, if you reread the manual, you'll see that programming another key (the 5 minute method) requires both original keys. If one of the original keys is missing, the dealer must tap into the ECM (using SBDS) and force the computer to accept the new key. It actually takes them a good 30+ minutes to do (I can see how your dealer took 4 hours if they weren't familiar with the procedure). My only complaint is this though: Ford dealers will not copy a key that is not an original for the car/truck. The original keys all have the Ford insignia on them, and the replacements/extras all have "PATS" on them (Passive Anti-Theft System). So if the dealer loses one key, and you lose the other original, that means you are SOL for getting any more keys made.

I have the same issue with my wife's '99 Explorer. I bought that used and it only had one key. The dealer provided me with a second, but it was a PATS replacement and I couldn't copy that one if I lose the original.
So a word to the wise: Don't lose your original keys! :wink: