['Have BULLITT will travel']

Does any one out there have a Paxton NOVI 1000 supercharger on their BULLITT? If so what do you have to say good or bad about it and what kind of performance you are getting from it. Was looking at the Saleen Series II roots supercharger but all the shops say keeping the BULLITT intake and using the Paxton is the way to go and you get 400hp. Just looking for some more show and street go ... no track racing. Thanks for any opinions you may have on what is the best way to go.

on your six ... DGH 1005

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['Have BULLITT will travel']

OK guys and girls need some help here. Called XMP in Aliso Viejo, CA they say keep the stock BULLITT manifold and put on a Paxton NOVI 1000 superchager. Paxton makes a kit just for the BULLITT and the stock manifold is used because it's trick and adds HP. Has any one see or heard of this being done?
on your six ... DHG 1005

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[FASTBULLITT]

I think that read somewhere that Paxton and Vortec merged.
I wonder if they are referring to the vortec SC for the Bullitt.

 

['Have BULLITT will travel']

FastBULLITT thanks! for the responce have not heard that, but just got off the phone with dealership I got DHG 1005 from their SVT mechanic said Saleen Roots Supercharger Kit is the way to go for street performance. The Paxton only come on after 3,000 RPM good for more top end the Saleen is great off the line and throught the gears. But XMP is right the BULLITT manifold is great but as of yet Saleen's Supercharger will not fit it.
What is a guy to do! The more question you ask the harded it is to make a decision. I like the roots look and the bottom end performance will call XMP again and see what up with that. on your six ... mod

 

[Bullitt/gg]

Right now I'm still not sure if I am going to slap #4083 with a supercharger or not but I have done some decent homework on them. from what I have read and heard I would actually lean more towards the Novi 1000 than the Roots type. It is true that the roots gives more power at lower RPM's and slightly more torque but the Novi sounds to be the better overall choice. If you want I can post some numbers if you're interested. I think I've got some at home that I can dig up if you want. I will also see if I can find out the other website that has an entire forum on supercharging stangs. It was there that I learned what a lot of the guys are using and prefer.

 

[Forced]

We call it a "Strategic Partnership" around here. :grin:
-Steve @ Vortech

 

[#2971]

I think I read somewhere that haney motorsports has the series II saleen kit for under 3000.00.

 

['Have BULLITT will travel']

Bullitt/gg thanks for the info. I like the looks of the roots tpye supercharger and now I hear Saleen has all the bugs worked out and for street use it will give the best all around performance. But any info. you can get out to me will be great ... still looking and thinking.

Forced how does your Vortech work for you? Is it ture the roots has better bottom end performance? When does the Vortech start it's boost?

#2971 thanks for the input.

Another question will this supercharger void the drivetrain warranty? My dealership said Yes & NO great answer.

on your six ... DHG 1005

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[LesnTea]

Initially I liked the idea of instant boost, BUT I could never shelf our intake. And when you think about it, from a dead stop it takes less than a second to get into boost that comes on at 3K and if you hold on till 5800 or so you not going to be out of boost when you shift. Or if your are cruising along in 5th, boost is only a downshift away! Boost from centrifical superchargers is always there when you need it and under normal driving conditions you, and your engine, would hardley know it's there.

The only problem with 400hp is our pistons and rods. Its only a matter of time (read money) before I end up supercharging as well but in my mind forged internals will be part of the deal.

 

[McQ Stang]

I have a NOVI 1000 Paxton supercharger and it runs great. I bought it from Houston Performance and had them install it. A couple of things I learned:

1) I had a custom chip burned so I would know that the air/fuel ration and timing were safe. In order to get the wide band O2 meter reading on the dyno, you will have to replace the stock cat system (I had a Bassini X pipe w/ cats installed). There is no room in front of the stock catalytic converters to hook up the wide band O2 meter.

2) The NOVI 1000 will flow more air than the stock MAF can handle. My car has 36 lb injectors and HP did not feel the tune was safe above 5000 rpm, so they used a very conservative tune. I tried a 80 mm Pro-M, but the car had idle problems. I wound up going with a MAF from a Ford Lightning that was calibrated for 36 lb injectors.

Here are the dynos with the various MAF, see my sig for the rest of the mods:

stock MAF and conservative tune - 318 rwhp

Pro-M MAF - 345 rwhp peak (one run was 362 rwhp but HP wanted to richen up the fuel)

Lightning MAF - ~340 rwhp

Hope this helps.

 

['Have BULLITT will travel']

LesnTea, thanks! makes a lot of senses only a second before the boost and this is for show and go not all out drage raceing. So maybe it is down to what looks the best,to me, under the hood.

Question: what type of supercharger is the best of street driving? what type is the most reliable?

What about the statement from XMP that the BULLITT maniflod is the best setup going just put on the Paxton and get going.

Understand about the bottom end but was told by dealership SVT guy the BULLITT bottom end unlike the Corba is stronger and will handel the supercharger OK.

still not sure but all your help is cool!

on you six ... DGH 1005



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['Have BULLITT will travel']

McQStang, OK this is the stuff I'm looking for 'where the rubber meets the road'kind of stuff.
Need to take this all in and get back to you on the fine dealtails. But, thanks again! for the info. it will help me get the best and most street HP for DHG 1005.

on your six ... DHG 1005

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['Have BULLITT will travel']

Just want to thank you all for the help!
on yoursix ... DHG 1005

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[#2971]

I just got through talking with Apex Motorsports in the Bay Area and was asking him what he thought was better between the Saleen Series II and the Vortech. He said he would use the Vortech hands down. He said that the Series II is good in the torque department but for rwhp the vortech, paxton, etc. is the way to go. He said that he has done a few series II's on 99+ GT's and they get about 320 hp to the wheels, where as the vortechs are putting out around 375+ to the wheels and we get to keep our intakes as well. If you want to talk to them the number is (408)562-1000.

 

[donwil]

How does the Eaton SC fit in here? Or are they OEMed as one of the types mentioned? I believe the '03 Cobra SC will be an Eaton??????

 

[Forced]

The saleen and the eaton are both the same type, roots.

 

['Have BULLITT will travel']

2971, great info. thanks! It may come down to what looks good to me and not HP. I'm a roots kind of a guy you know the big blower with that big belt sticking out of the hood.

donwill, Eaton that news to me. talked to my dealership SVT guy and he's getting 2003 Corbra and trading in his supercharged 5.0 to get it...it's hot he said, like 380HP.

Forced, are you saying Saleen and Eaton are the same product made by the same company or just the same type 'roots'?

Question: will the SVT roots superchagre on the Lighting Truck fit on to the BULLITT?

McQStang, said he used a Lighting Truck manifold to mount his Paxton. Would the Lighting Truck roots supercharger be the way to go and will a dealership install it and would it still be under factory warranty?

Thanks for all the info. good to have fellow HPBULLITTHEADS out there.

on you six ... DHG 1005



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[McQ Stang]

I'm using the mass air flow sensor (MAF) off a Ford Lightning, not the the intake manifold. With a centrifugal supercharger like the Paxton, Vortech or ATI you keep the stock Bullitt intake manifold. The MAF is installed between the air filter and the supercharger on my installation.

With the typical roots type blower, you have to replace the stock intake manifold with one that adapts the supercharger. The Sallen and the Eaton are both roots type positive displacement superchargers. I'm not sure, but I believe the Saleen supercharger is a packaged kit using an Eaton blower.

I would not try to adapt the supercharger system off of a Lightning. IMO, if you want a roots type blower, go with the Saleen. The Saleen comes with an aftercooler, and the kit should be proven as there are plenty of installations out there.

 

['Have BULLITT will travel']

McQ Stang, thanks for all your info. about this supercharger matter. Your input will go a long way to help me make that final call. Looking more like Saleen!

on your six ... DHG 1005

 

['Have BULLITT will travel']

Ok guys what are the best gauges to install when you are running a supercharger? Saleen has a (2)gauge pod that fits on top of the dash but only comes in black. Like the look of the gauges running up the window post. So far been told oil pressure, fuel pressure are the top (2) to have and boost if you want to impress your friends. Is there a (3) gauge window post mount out there?

on your six ... DHG 1005