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And THEY,nascar, put the old strong arm on him,to scream uncle. Well,I'm not on the payroll,so NASCAR take this...Your show really is over micro managed to get the "prefered" winner and have no runaway cars in the lead!!
 

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Followed NASCAR since '63...and its getting very close to boring...or IROC. They've got a manufacturer nightmare right now...all the car bodies are the same...one brand winning all the races. No way to "adjust" them like they used to.

More empty seats every week. The economy has something to do with it...but, I think the clone car program is contributing too.

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Tony was just speaking his mind which is fine by me...Nascar sometimes get boring, but yesterday's Busch race was exciting....The reason there is so many empty seats is because it cost too much to attend a race...California Speedway has never sold out...Nascar made a mistake in giving certain tracks two races a year...You have the Vegas track, Phoenix, and California all competing for fans to attend...We won't go anymore unless the father-in-law gets a deal for California Speedway(he works for a major country radio station).....
 

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I think one of the reasons Nascar is losing fans is because of the racing. They do not race like they used to, the cars are tooooo fast and the drivers have said it is hard to race side by side. Also most of the tracks are to long, the cars to aero dependent. Reduce the size of the rear spoiler, raise the front of the car about 6" off of the ground and put a smaller carb on, keep a standard body and chassis and racing will improve. I remember ASA with only about 3 chassis builders, one body manufacturer and one engine type with ASA giving the teams the computer to use. Great racing. And Tony was correct with his statements
 

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I agree with Stewart. In fact, I've been saying this all along. It's about time somebody bucked the corporate shills and spoke up. And despite Nascars claim, I think his fine and probation have nothing to do with missing post race interviews, and everything to do with what he said.

Nascar is looking for close finishes, and those late debris cautions are one way of getting them.

Too much sameness in the sport nowadays. A lot of the tracks are the same.. chicago, vegas, kansas, california.. all pretty much the same. And it's hard for the fans to relate to the vehicles on the track because they are virtually identical, and look nothing like the ones sold in the showrooms.

If anyone has watched "Back in the Day" on Speed channel, thats when racing was racing.
 

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I can't say I am much of a fan of Tony Stewart. But he's on the money. I've often thought that in a few races "circumstances" put him in a position to win. But he gains points with me for acknowledging the fact that it goes on. But Jeff does seem to be the beneficiary of these calls a lot of the time.
 

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I can't belive believe people pay that much money,for a ticket,to see this crap.But then it might be the same people that are fans of "wrestling entertainment"!
Today I watched some of the road race televised from VIR. Great racing there!
 

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we can now thank nascar for making Tony's point valid. After that rice burner puked an engine, (running in the middle of the pack I might add) nascar waited almost 3/4 of a lap before throwing a caution, seems as if they waited long enough for jeff to pass Jamie McMurry for first and then throw the caution.
 

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Ok sinse I've stopped watching NASCAR, because just what you all are talking about, and because I'm mostly on the road to Tulsa during the race... What did Tony say?
 

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Stewart not Happy with NASCAR: #20-Tony Stewart accused NASCAR of "playing God" by using caution flags to orchestrate closer racing. During his Tony Stewart Live program Tuesday night on Sirius Satellite Radio, Stewart lambasted officials for throwing four yellow flags for debris during Saturday's Subway Fresh Fit 500 at Phoenix International Raceway. Stewart didn't feel any of the caution periods were warranted, implying NASCAR intentionally was trying to bunch up the field by slowing the pace of the racing. "To me it's not all about the money, it's about the integrity of the sport, and when I feel our own sanctioning body isn't taking care of that, it's hard to support them and feel proud about being a driver in the Nextel Cup Series when they're throwing debris cautions," he said. "It's like playing God. They can almost dictate the race instead of the drivers doing it. It's happened too many times this year. You get so frustrated ... But enough of it's gone on that fans are writing in and talking about it. At what point does NASCAR get the hint? I guess NASCAR thinks, 'hey wrestling worked, and it was for the most part staged, so I guess it's going to work in racing, too.' "
Stewart was particularly displeased with a debris yellow that occurred as he was catching Kevin Harvick for the lead because "I was coming so fast, it was inevitable I was going to get around those guys, so NASCAR throws a debris caution ... I thought racing was about being better than the other guys." Stewart led a race-high 132 laps but finished second after falling behind winner Jeff Gordon when he pitted during the final yellow, which came for a three-car crash involving Dave Blaney, Kenny Wallace and J.J. Yeley. "That was only the second legitimate caution we had all day," Stewart said. "I can't understand how long the fans are going to let NASCAR treat them like they're stupid before the fans finally turn on NASCAR," he said. "I don't know that they've run a fair race all year." NASCAR has thrown 20 debris cautions in nine races this season, and finishes seemingly have been affected at least twice. At California Speedway in February, Jimmie Johnson was leading comfortably when a late debris caution eliminated his margin. After finishing third to Matt Kenseth, Johnson and runner-up Jeff Gordon both said he never saw any debris on the track to cause the yellow.
about leaving the track: Stewart said the debris cautions were the reason he didn't address the media after the Phoenix race. "The aggravation for me was I didn't want to go in the media center and bash NASCAR," he said. "I don't mind doing it on my own radio show. Anyone who thinks this debris caution stuff is the right direction for NASCAR, I think you're crazy." NASCAR requires its top-three finishers to do interviews on pit road and the media center, but Stewart said it wasn't his obligation to comply. He's not expected to be penalized. "The thing with the media is they think it's our obligation to do those things," Stewart said. "It's a privilege that they get to (talk to us). That's the way it's always been. Maybe it is in some of these other guys' contracts, but it is not in my contract that says I have to go do any interviews after the race is over."(USA Today/Sirius Satellite Radio PR)(4-25-2007)
 

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Ok sinse I've stopped watching NASCAR, because just what you all are talking about, and because I'm mostly on the road to Tulsa during the race... What did Tony say?
Excellent topic people,this nascar crap has been eating at me for quite some time now.I think nascar started going down hill sometime in the late 80's or early 90's.Before then they were Stock Cars,sort of.Now they are just custom built race cars that cost in the millions.They are all the same,just different paint and decals.These are not Ford,Chevys,Mopars or(excuse me while I puke)TOYOTAS!!! Give me a break!I never thought I'd see the day that I would actually get so bored with a race that I would go mow my lawn like I did last sunday.Actually I don't even think it should be called a race.It's more like a long comercial interupted by a few cars driving around in a circle every now and then.Think maybe I'm gonna start watching golf or somthing.I must say though,this toyota thing really crushed me.I mean it's only a name , but TOYOTA!!!!!.Oh well,now that I'm done venting I'm goin out in the garage and play with my Bullitt.Later.
 
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