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Its about time to change the springs and shocks on my B...i am thinking about a mod right now to lower the car just a tad. I wud like some suggestions...please!

Dont sugar-coat ur suggestions...ok...just give me the straight poop:eek:...what did i say...little humor there:lol:

OR...do i go back stock??...
 

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thanks...Greg...i knew that you had just done urs..but i couldnt remember what you went with.
 

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I put H&R super sport springs on my car and kept the stock Tokiko shocks. So far no issues, but the car definately rides a little rougher w/ the lowering springs.

I hope to eventually get some Bilsteins!!!
 

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Eibach Pro line springs (1" drop") and Bilstien struts/shocks.
If you just change shocks/struts stick with the Bilstien..... None better IMHO
 

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+1 for the Bilstien struts/shocks and here are the part numbers you need:

Bilstein HD Struts V36-4138-H3 / Shocks BE5-6418-HO (about 500-600 depending on where you buy 'em).
 

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+ another 1 on the Bilsteins. I have the Vogtland springs and am very happy with them.
 

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Bilsteins for the shocks / struts. H&R Supersports may be a little stiff for you old guys (just the straight poop :lol:). You would also need CC plates with them. Mine are a little stiffer than stock but the Bilsteins help that. The Eibach pro-kit is a little softer than the H&R's and about the same as the Bullitt except they're progressive instead of linear. If you decide not to lower it I would assume your stock springs are just fine since you don't have a lot of miles from what I recall. I've heard from several people that the Vogtlands are nice.
 

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droopysbullitt said:
I went with Monroes all around while I lowered the car about another 3/4 of an inch. Seems to ride better.
Greg,
What else did you do to lower the B, or did the Monroes do that on their own?
 

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What do you think??

Hey..guys...thanks for your suggestions an help....i appreciate it!

I found a shop in Ft. Worth....new struts an shocks an alignment for less than......$800...thats the installed price..is that good in your opinion?
 

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And yes, the Bilstein parts quoted earlier are $600 to your door, all day long. Did your shop give a breakdown on labor (Ie: what if you brought your own parts in)?
What I'm saying here, is if you can upgrade, then do it. If your locale/wallet won't allow, then do what you gotta do.
 

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Okay, I'm on "full-auto" reply here, so sue me...
Your original post said you wanted to lower it a tad. One more thought (parts only), is that MMR sells a springs/Tokiko package,(for $550 + shipping), that would lower the B another 3/4" inch.
 

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I decided to leave the ride height stock...reason is...i did some digging around in the "Search" area an it seems everyone is of the opinion that the ride is somewhat ruff if lowered...then you gotta watch out for the mud flaps things:lol:...so i went with the original stuff that came on the B...i also went to the local ford house...they wanted $1,080 for the same stuff.

I appreciate everyones suggestions an comments...as all ways...we b Bullittheads...an cant no one else say that!! Brothers of the Buliitt.
..old or new!
 

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Update on the shocks an struts....took the B to the shop this am....the guy told me that the struts were covered under my warranty...that includes labor...so the cost to me is gonna b much less than the $800....yea!!!!!!!!!!!!...i just had to tell you guys...cause the wife dont have a clue what i am talking about:lol:
 

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This is the e-mail I got this morning:


Chris,

Well there is a couple important points...

First... your stock spring rating is pretty stiff (stiffer than a standard GT), at about 600lb/in in the front. The Eibach Pro-Kits are SOFTER than your stock springs. Most Mach1 and Bullitt owners do not go with those softer springs.... why lose handling performance??

So, the most popular choice is the H&R Super Sports. Its really the ONLY spring (not just on our site, but anywhere) that both lowers a Mach1 or Bullitt AND increases the handling performance.

H&R Super Sports are the only way to fly!! Here is a direct link... http://www.stangsuspension.com/store/comersus_viewitem.asp?idproduct=146

As far as isolators... Keep in mind the isolators will raise the suspension back up 1/4 of an inch. They do not compress as much as the rubber isolators. So if your goal is to lower the car a good amount... keep your stock isolators. If you dont mind raising it back up 1/4 of an inch... get the isolators!

Sincerely,

Josh Sadowsky
StangSuspension.com
http://www.stangsuspension.com

Steeda - Maximum Motorsports - H&R - Eibach - Bilstein
Tokico - SPEC - Ford Racing - BMR Fabrication - & More!

Thank god I asked these guys first I will for sure go with the H&R SS'
Hope this helps
 

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Funny I have been doing twisties since I put the springs on and notice no difference in handling performance. For what I want it is a great set up for me. I felt it was a good compromise between the height and ride.
 

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These are the different spring rates listed on StangSuspension's website.

<TABLE style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" borderColor=#111111 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="80%" border=2><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%" colSpan=3>Stock Spring Rates</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">Model/Year</TD><TD width="33%">Front Spring Rate (lb/in)</TD><TD width="34%">Rear Spring Rate (lb/in)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">Mustang GT/V6 Coupe 1994-2004</TD><TD width="33%">450 (linear)</TD><TD width="34%">210 (linear, solid axle)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">Mustang GT/V6 Vert. 1994-2004</TD><TD width="33%">400 (linear)</TD><TD width="34%">185 (linear, solid axle)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">Mustang Cobra Coupe 1999-2001</TD><TD width="33%">500 (linear)</TD><TD width="34%">475 (linear, IRS)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">Mustang Cobra Coupe 2003-2004</TD><TD width="33%">600 (linear)</TD><TD width="34%">600 (linear, IRS)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">Mustang Cobra Vert. 2003-2004</TD><TD width="33%">500 (linear)</TD><TD width="34%">470 (linear, IRS)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">Mustang Mach1 Coupe 2003-2004</TD><TD width="33%">600 (linear)</TD><TD width="34%">250 (linear, solid axle)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">Mustang Bullitt Coupe 2001-20022</TD><TD width="33%">600 (linear)</TD><TD width="34%">250 (linear, solid axle)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" borderColor=#111111 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="80%" border=2><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%" colSpan=3>Aftermarket Spring Rates</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">Manufacturer/Part Info</TD><TD width="33%">Front Spring Rate (lb/in)</TD><TD width="34%">Rear Spring Rate (lb/in)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">Ford Racing B Springs (M5300B)</TD><TD width="33%">425-530 (progressive)</TD><TD width="34%">200-300 (progressive, solid axle)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">Ford Racing C Springs (M5300C)</TD><TD width="33%">650 (linear)</TD><TD width="34%">200-300 (progressive, solid axle)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">Ford Racing F Springs (M5300F)</TD><TD width="33%">460-570 (progressive)</TD><TD width="34%">170-310 (progressive, solid axle)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">Ford Racing G Springs (M5300G)</TD><TD width="33%">500-570 (progressive)</TD><TD width="34%">170-310 (progressive, solid axle)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">Eibach Pro-Kit Springs (94-04 Mustangs)</TD><TD width="33%">425-530 (progressive)</TD><TD width="34%">200-300 (progressive, solid axle)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">Eibach Sportline Springs (79-04 Mustangs)</TD><TD width="33%">425-630 (progressive)</TD><TD width="34%">140-295 (progressive, solid axle)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">H&R Sport Springs (94-04 Mustangs)</TD><TD width="33%">490-575 (progressive)</TD><TD width="34%">205-250 (progressive, solid axle)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">H&R Sport Springs (99-04 Cobra)</TD><TD width="33%">700-760 (progressive)</TD><TD width="34%">685 (linear, IRS)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">H&R Super Sport Springs (94-04 Mustangs)</TD><TD width="33%">700-760 (progressive)</TD><TD width="34%">275-300 (progressive, solid axle)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">H&R Race Springs (79-04 Mustangs)</TD><TD width="33%">750-850 (progressive)</TD><TD width="34%">260-280 (progressive, solid axle)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">H&R Race Springs (99-04 Cobra)</TD><TD width="33%">750-850 (progressive)</TD><TD width="34%">770 (linear, IRS)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">Steeda Sport Springs (79-04 Mustangs)</TD><TD width="33%">650 (linear)</TD><TD width="34%">200-250 (progressive, solid axle)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">Steeda Sport Springs (03-04 Cobra)</TD><TD width="33%">720-780 (progressive)</TD><TD width="34%">650-790 (progressive, IRS)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">Steeda Competition Springs (79-04 Mustangs)</TD><TD width="33%">750-850 (progressive)</TD><TD width="34%">250 (linear, solid axle)</TD></TR><TR><TD width="33%">StangSuspension Springs (94-04 Mustangs)</TD><TD width="33%">490-575 (progressive)</TD><TD width="34%">205-250 (progressive, solid axle)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

The Bullitt spring are 600# front (linear) and 250# rear (linear). The Pro-Kit springs are 425-530# front (progressive) and 300# rear (progressive). Under full load the Pro-Kit front springs are not that much softer than the Bullitts and since they are progressive they will ride smoother just tooling around town. The H&R SS spring are stiiffer than the Bullitts and feel it. I have them and really like them but unless you're on the track I don't think you will see alot of difference in handling one way or the other. They are all head and shoulders above the stock GT springs.
 

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I also really like the look of the SS springs so I just dont know. I dont wanna make the wrong choice. How much harsher are the SS? lots are just some.
 
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